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	==Development==		==Development==
	As the Erdrick trilogy had reached a definite conclusion with the twist ending of {{DQ3}}, [[Yuji Horii]] decided that ''IV'' would begin a new story unconnected to the previous games, ~~even considering starting~~ a new trilogy<ref>ファミ通, November 1989</ref>.		As the Erdrick trilogy had reached a definite conclusion with the twist ending of {{DQ3}}, [[Yuji Horii]] decided that ''Dragon Quest IV'' would begin a new story unconnected to the previous games, musing that it could be the start of a new trilogy<ref>ファミ通, November 1989</ref>. Development on the title began in February of 1988, followed by a tour of Spanish castles to get into the proper mindset for crafting a fantasy world.

	''IV'''s development began with the intent of exploring [[artificial intelligence]], which was a growing trend in Japan at the time. Meetings on the topic were held from February—June 1988<ref>・・・・・・今回イロイロと新しいことにチャレンジしてますけど、なかでもいちばん苦労したところはどこですか?		''IV'''s development began with the intent of exploring [[artificial intelligence]], which was a growing trend in Japan at the time. Meetings on the topic were held from February—June 1988<ref>・・・・・・今回イロイロと新しいことにチャレンジしてますけど、なかでもいちばん苦労したところはどこですか?
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	The game's storyline, with self-contained chapters leading up to a greater finale, came about because Horii did not want to overwhelm players with a single long campaign that was twice as long as ''Dragon Quest III'''s. He also wanted to examine the lives of the Hero's companions before they joined forces, a deliberate contrast to the blank slates created at [[Patty's Party Planning Place]] in ''III''<ref>"What was the inspiration for dividing ''Dragon Quest IV'' into five stand-alone chapters?"		The game's storyline, with self-contained chapters leading up to a greater finale, came about because Horii did not want to overwhelm players with a single long campaign that was twice as long as ''Dragon Quest III'''s. He also wanted to examine the lives of the Hero's companions before they joined forces, a deliberate contrast to the blank slates created at [[Patty's Party Planning Place]] in ''III''<ref>"What was the inspiration for dividing ''Dragon Quest IV'' into five stand-alone chapters?"
	Horii: In ''Dragon Quest III'', you went on an adventure with three companions, but these characters were simply created from scratch by the player. I thought it would be interesting to explore the lives of your comrades, which became the inspiration for ''Dragon Quest IV''</ref>.		Horii: In ''Dragon Quest III'', you went on an adventure with three companions, but these characters were simply created from scratch by the player. I thought it would be interesting to explore the lives of your comrades, which became the inspiration for ''Dragon Quest IV''. Nintendo Power issue 230, page 55</ref>.

	The chapter structure was also intended to ease players into the structure of a ''Dragon Quest'' game and the AI system<ref>確かに1章なんか、イロイロな面で入門用にもピッタリという感じはしますね。		The chapter structure was also intended to ease players into the structure of a ''Dragon Quest'' game and the AI system<ref>確かに1章なんか、イロイロな面で入門用にもピッタリという感じはしますね。
	堀井: ただ、あんまりドラクエすぎてもちょっとつまらないので、ホイミンをつけてみたりとか。(笑)ちょっとだけNPC(ノンプレイヤーキャラ)の練習をさせたりもしてるんですよね。''Dragon Quest IV Master's Club'' page 6, ISBN4-7966-0084-1</ref>, as Horii believed the systems had evolved too fast between the previous games. Due to this, Chapters 1 and 2 were intentionally structured similarly to {{DQ}} and {{DQ2}}, with its simple combat and three-man party respectively. Chapter 2 proved to be the most difficult to balance, with the continent of [[Terrestria\|Maestral]] receiving mountainous terrain to increase encounter rates and [[Zalenagrad]] getting a conspicuous sign post warning players to level up before moving forward with their journey<ref>今のところ2章までやらせてもらったんですけど、今回は結構イベントが多そうですね。2章なんていきなりイベントがあったりして...。		堀井: ただ、あんまりドラクエすぎてもちょっとつまらないので、ホイミンをつけてみたりとか。(笑)ちょっとだけNPC(ノンプレイヤーキャラ)の練習をさせたりもしてるんですよね。''Dragon Quest IV Master's Club'' page 6, ISBN4-7966-0084-1</ref>, as Horii believed the systems had evolved too fast between the previous games. Due to this, Chapters 1 and 2 were intentionally structured similarly to {{DQ}} and {{DQ2}}, with its simple combat and three-man party respectively. Chapter 1's simplicity proved an ideal place to introduce players to AI-controlled allies through Healie the healslime. Chapter 2 proved to be the most difficult to balance, with the continent of [[Terrestria\|Maestral]] receiving mountainous terrain to increase encounter rates and [[Zalenagrad]] getting a conspicuous sign post warning players to level up before moving forward with their journey<ref>今のところ2章までやらせてもらったんですけど、今回は結構イベントが多そうですね。2章なんていきなりイベントがあったりして...。

	堀井: そうですね。2章はバランスどりもけっこう苦労しました。というのは、町の数が多いものですから、隣の町までの距離もあまりなくて、ヘタすると1回もエンカウントせずに行けてしまう可能性があったんですよ。		堀井: そうですね。2章はバランスどりもけっこう苦労しました。というのは、町の数が多いものですから、隣の町までの距離もあまりなくて、ヘタすると1回もエンカウントせずに行けてしまう可能性があったんですよ。
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	**ということは逆に言えば、それだけ確かめてあるから、いくら倍率が高いとはいっても、決して勝てないというわけではないですよね。		**ということは逆に言えば、それだけ確かめてあるから、いくら倍率が高いとはいっても、決して勝てないというわけではないですよね。
	堀井そうです、勝つこともあります。勝つ確率が0っていうカードはないです。''Dragon Quest IV Master's Club'' page 7, ISBN4-7966-0084-1</ref>.		堀井そうです、勝つこともあります。勝つ確率が0っていうカードはないです。''Dragon Quest IV Master's Club'' page 7, ISBN4-7966-0084-1</ref>.

			Development of ''Dragon Quest IV'' wrapped up in August of 1989, with focus shifting to {{Dragon Quest V}}'s planning stage after a two month break. Chunsoft struggled to fit the game on to the cartridge despite having twice as much memory capacity as ''Dragon Quest III'', with Koichi Nakamura admitting that only a scant 100 bytes remained by the end of development<ref>IVはどうなんでしょう。IIIは2メガでエラく大変だったって聞いていますけど。
			中村: 大変は大変でしたけど、無事にタイトルも入りましたし。(笑)数バイトしか残ってないなんて事はないけど、まともなプログラムが組めるほど、空いてないです。全部で100バイト位、空いてるかな? ''Dragon Quest IV Master's Club'' page 11, ISBN4-7966-0084-1</ref>. In a December 1990 interview with Famitsu magazine promoting ''Dragon Quest V'', Horii revealed that he intended for {{Psaro C}} to join the Chosen at one point, but the scenario was scrapped due to the strict memory limit<ref>— じつは『V』の主人公はデスピ○ロで人間に復讐するという・・・・・。そんなシナリオも想像できるんですがどうですか?よく、「あれではデスピ○ロがかわいそうだ」という意見も耳にしますから。
			堀井: なるほど。アイデアとしてはおもしろいね。本当のこと言っちゃうと、ピ○ロは途中で仲間になる予定だったんだよ。でも、容量の関係でどんどん削られてしまって。で、結局ああいうことになったの。ファミ通 No. 117 December 21st 1990, page 43</ref>. Whether this original scenario was revived for chapter 6 in the 2001 {{PlayStation}} remake or remained scrapped in lieu of a new story altogether is unknown.

	==Credits==		==Credits==

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	As the [[Erdrick trilogy]] had ~~been wrapped up concisely~~ with the twist ending of {{~~Dragon Quest III~~}}, [[Yuji Horii]] decided that ''~~Dragon Quest~~ IV'' would ~~be a fresh start with~~ a story unconnected to ~~what came before During an interview with ''Weekly Famitsu'' magazine~~, ~~he mused that the game could be the start of~~ a ~~brand~~ new trilogy<ref>ファミ通, November 1989</ref>.		As the Erdrick trilogy had reached a definite conclusion with the twist ending of {{DQ3}}, [[Yuji Horii]] decided that ''IV'' would begin a new story unconnected to the previous games, even considering starting a new trilogy<ref>ファミ通, November 1989</ref>.

	~~Development of~~ ''~~Dragon Quest~~ IV'' began with the ~~decision that the title would explore the emerging world~~ of [[artificial intelligence]] ~~behavior. The development team held an initial planning meeting~~ in ~~February of 1988 to explore what programming techniques were available and what would be suitable for~~ the ~~game, with frequent subsequent meetings being held until~~ the ~~team's priorities~~ were ~~finalized in June~~<ref>・・・・・・今回イロイロと新しいことにチャレンジしてますけど、なかでもいちばん苦労したところはどこですか?		''IV'''s development began with the intent of exploring [[artificial intelligence]], which was a growing trend in Japan at the time. Meetings on the topic were held from February—June 1988<ref>・・・・・・今回イロイロと新しいことにチャレンジしてますけど、なかでもいちばん苦労したところはどこですか?
	堀井: やっぱりAIでしょう。できあがるのに1年以上かかってますから。とにかくAIを使うっていうことは、最初からほとんど決まってたんですよね。それまでまず、'88年の2月頃から会議を初めて、延々と会議を繰り返したわけです。		堀井: やっぱりAIでしょう。できあがるのに1年以上かかってますから。とにかくAIを使うっていうことは、最初からほとんど決まってたんですよね。それまでまず、'88年の2月頃から会議を初めて、延々と会議を繰り返したわけです。

	最初のうちは、ほとんどAIのことばかり話しあっていたんですね。		最初のうちは、ほとんどAIのことばかり話しあっていたんですね。
	堀井: そうです。どんな方法があるかっていうのを何回も話し合って詰めていって、6月の段階で、これだというものがやっとできあがったんです。その後プログラムに移ったわけなんですけど、実際にプログラムをする山名くんがかなり苦労をして、1年以上かかたっと思いますよ。''Dragon Quest IV Master's Club'' page 4, ISBN4-7966-0084-1</ref>~~. These early production meetings also gave~~ the team ~~the time to reflect~~ on ~~some of the critiques that~~ ''~~Dragon Quest~~ III'' ~~received~~, ~~which resulted in~~ a ~~streamlined~~ [[Command Menu]], the return of the command ~~to open doors~~, ~~and the moving of the save locations from castles~~ to ~~churches via the confession option. The open command now~~ automatically ~~defaults to~~ the highest-~~ranking~~ key ~~the party's possession and saves~~ the player ~~the time-wasting hassle of selecting the key from the item menu~~<ref>堀井さんて、今までも常に反響を生かしてゲームを作っていますよね。		堀井: そうです。どんな方法があるかっていうのを何回も話し合って詰めていって、6月の段階で、これだというものがやっとできあがったんです。その後プログラムに移ったわけなんですけど、実際にプログラムをする山名くんがかなり苦労をして、1年以上かかたっと思いますよ。''Dragon Quest IV Master's Club'' page 4, ISBN4-7966-0084-1</ref>, in which the team also reflected on player feedback from ''III''. As a result, the gameplay flow was streamlined, with changes including a simplified [[Command Menu]] and the return of the door-opening command, changed to automatically select the highest-tier key for the player<ref>堀井さんて、今までも常に反響を生かしてゲームを作っていますよね。
	堀井: 反響の中でも特に、不満の部分を生かしますね。なんとかがめんどくさかったとか、それはある程度自分たちでも反省会を開いたりするんですけどね。るそういう意味では今回、コマンド体系をさらに使いやすくしたつもりです。カギを使うのがめんどくさいとか、そういった部分をすべて改善しましたから。''Dragon Quest IV Master's Club'' page 6, ISBN4-7966-0084-1</ref>~~, and churches have been placed near the entrances to towns to allow for quicker saving than having to venture deep into a castle to speak with the resident sovereign~~. ~~Moving the~~ save ~~feature away~~ from the ~~world's royalty also allowed for the Kings~~ and ~~Queens to be given more personality through their dialogue~~, ~~something that would not be possible if they had to cycle through~~ the ~~save functions and report how many experience points a character needed~~ to ~~level up~~<ref>''Dragon Quest IV Master's Club'' page 9, ISBN4-7966-0084-1</ref>		堀井: 反響の中でも特に、不満の部分を生かしますね。なんとかがめんどくさかったとか、それはある程度自分たちでも反省会を開いたりするんですけどね。るそういう意味では今回、コマンド体系をさらに使いやすくしたつもりです。カギを使うのがめんどくさいとか、そういった部分をすべて改善しましたから。''Dragon Quest IV Master's Club'' page 6, ISBN4-7966-0084-1</ref>. The save points were also moved from castles to [[church]]es placed close to town entrances; because the kings and queens of each region no longer saved games, the developers were able to flesh out those characters' personalities<ref>''Dragon Quest IV Master's Club'' page 9, ISBN4-7966-0084-1</ref>.

	The task of writing the AI code was taken up by series veteran [[Manabu Yamana]], who took approximately a year to implement and fine-tune the intricate system. Yamana developed a group-learning AI where battle information obtained by one character is shared among the whole party. This was done at [[Yuji Horii]]'s insistence on the grounds that having to switch characters in and out of the wagon just to learn the weaknesses of a particular monster would be very tedious. This approach also had the extra benefit of enriching the immersion experience as it was easy to imagine the characters sharing advice among themselves once a battle was over<ref>堀井: あとね、みんなが誤解してるかもしれないんで、これだけは言っておきたいんです。たとえば8人いますよね。で、ブライばかり出して戦闘してて、マーニャは馬車の中にばかりいたと。だからマーニャは、このモンスターと戦うのは初めてだという場合でも、マーニャはいちおう馬車の中から今までの戦いを見ている、という設定のもとに学習しているんです。それはナゼかって言うと、1人ずつ出して学習させるのはダルいと思ったからなんです。だから、パーティとして覚えちゃう。1人の知識はみんなの知識というような、学習機能にしちゃったんですね。結果的にはこれでよかったと思いますよ。やっぱり、それぞれのキャラクターを外に出して、何回も同じモンスターと戦うのってダルいですから。''Dragon Quest IV Master's Club'' page 5, ISBN4-7966-0084-1</ref>. This emphasis on player convenience is the reason why characters riding in the wagon also gain the same experience points obtained by characters fighting on the front-lines<ref>逆に、中にいる人は学習できないとなると、必然的に外に出すキャラって固定されますよね。		The task of writing the AI code was taken up by series veteran [[Manabu Yamana]], who took approximately a year to implement and fine-tune the intricate system. Yamana developed a group-learning AI where battle information obtained by one character is shared among the whole party. This was done at [[Yuji Horii]]'s insistence on the grounds that having to switch characters in and out of the wagon just to learn the weaknesses of a particular monster would be very tedious. This approach also had the extra benefit of enriching the immersion experience as it was easy to imagine the characters sharing advice among themselves once a battle was over<ref>堀井: あとね、みんなが誤解してるかもしれないんで、これだけは言っておきたいんです。たとえば8人いますよね。で、ブライばかり出して戦闘してて、マーニャは馬車の中にばかりいたと。だからマーニャは、このモンスターと戦うのは初めてだという場合でも、マーニャはいちおう馬車の中から今までの戦いを見ている、という設定のもとに学習しているんです。それはナゼかって言うと、1人ずつ出して学習させるのはダルいと思ったからなんです。だから、パーティとして覚えちゃう。1人の知識はみんなの知識というような、学習機能にしちゃったんですね。結果的にはこれでよかったと思いますよ。やっぱり、それぞれのキャラクターを外に出して、何回も同じモンスターと戦うのってダルいですから。''Dragon Quest IV Master's Club'' page 5, ISBN4-7966-0084-1</ref>. This emphasis on player convenience is the reason why characters riding in the wagon also gain the same experience points obtained by characters fighting on the front-lines<ref>逆に、中にいる人は学習できないとなると、必然的に外に出すキャラって固定されますよね。
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	**ということは逆に言えば、それだけ確かめてあるから、いくら倍率が高いとはいっても、決して勝てないというわけではないですよね。		**ということは逆に言えば、それだけ確かめてあるから、いくら倍率が高いとはいっても、決して勝てないというわけではないですよね。
	堀井そうです、勝つこともあります。勝つ確率が0っていうカードはないです。''Dragon Quest IV Master's Club'' page 7, ISBN4-7966-0084-1</ref>.		堀井そうです、勝つこともあります。勝つ確率が0っていうカードはないです。''Dragon Quest IV Master's Club'' page 7, ISBN4-7966-0084-1</ref>.

	==Credits==		==Credits==

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	In ~~a bold move for an {{NES}} title~~, ~~a significant portion of the game's memory was dedicated to an intricate [[artificial intelligence]] that controls~~ party members ~~during~~ the ~~fifth chapter. In the fifth chapter of the {{NES}} version of the game, the player~~ no longer directly ~~controls any of the previous characters;~~ instead ~~using~~ the ~~tactics~~ menu ~~to deliver a loose set of instructions~~ (Normal, Defensive, Offensive, Save {{MP}}, Use No MP, Try Out). The ~~only character directly~~ controlled is the ~~Hero~~. ~~All~~ chapters except {{DQ4 Chapter 2}} also contain ~~{{NPC}}s, which travel with the player, but cannot be directly~~ controlled~~. They~~ act ~~on their own, guided by~~ the ~~game's AI~~.		In Chapter 5, party members beside the Hero are no longer directly controlled, their behavior instead being dictated by options in the Tactics menu (Normal, Defensive, Offensive, Save {{MP}}, Use No MP, Try Out). The ensuing actions are controlled by an intricate [[artificial intelligence]] system, which takes up a significant amount of the game's memory. The other chapters, except {{DQ4 Chapter 2}}, also contain [[Non-Player Character\|computer-controlled party members]] that act alongside the player in battle.

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	{{Translation\|'''Dragon Quest IV'''\|ドラゴンクエストIV 導かれし者たち\|Doragon Kuesuto Fō Michibikareshi Monotachi\|literally meaning; ''The People Who Are Shown the Way''}} is a role-playing game and the fourth installment of the {{Main Series}} video game series. The game was originally released for the {{NES}}~~, but has been remade several times~~ for ~~different systems~~. It begins the ''Tenkuu'' (''Celestial'') trilogy, known better as the ''[[Zenithia trilogy]]'' in English.		{{Translation\|'''Dragon Quest IV'''\|ドラゴンクエストIV 導かれし者たち\|Doragon Kuesuto Fō Michibikareshi Monotachi\|literally meaning; ''The People Who Are Shown the Way''}} is a role-playing game and the fourth installment of the {{Main Series}} video game series. The game was originally released for the {{NES}} and earned acclaim for pioneering the advancement of [[artificial intelligence]] in the video game industry. It begins the ''Tenkuu'' (''Celestial'') trilogy, known better as the ''[[Zenithia trilogy]]'' in English.

	It was originally released for the {{Famicom}} on February 11, 1990 in Japan. The North American version, titled {{Dragon Warrior IV}}, was released for the {{NES}} in October 1992.		It was originally released for the {{Famicom}} on February 11, 1990 in Japan. The North American version, titled {{Dragon Warrior IV}}, was released for the {{NES}} in October 1992.
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	In a bold move for an {{NES}} title, a significant portion of the game's memory was dedicated to an intricate artificial intelligence that controls party members during the fifth chapter. In the fifth chapter of the {{NES}} version of the game, the player no longer directly controls any of the previous characters; instead using the ~~Tactics~~ menu to deliver a loose set of instructions (Normal, Defensive, Offensive, Save {{MP}}, Use No MP, Try Out). The only character directly controlled is the Hero. All chapters except {{DQ4 Chapter 2}} also contain {{NPC}}, which travel with the player, but cannot be directly controlled. They act on their own, guided by the game's AI.		In a bold move for an {{NES}} title, a significant portion of the game's memory was dedicated to an intricate [[artificial intelligence]] that controls party members during the fifth chapter. In the fifth chapter of the {{NES}} version of the game, the player no longer directly controls any of the previous characters; instead using the tactics menu to deliver a loose set of instructions (Normal, Defensive, Offensive, Save {{MP}}, Use No MP, Try Out). The only character directly controlled is the Hero. All chapters except {{DQ4 Chapter 2}} also contain {{NPC}}s, which travel with the player, but cannot be directly controlled. They act on their own, guided by the game's AI.

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	As the [[Erdrick trilogy]] had been wrapped up concisely with the twist ending of {{Dragon Quest III}}, [[Yuji Horii]] decided that ''Dragon Quest IV'' would be a fresh start with a story unconnected to what came before During an interview with ''Weekly Famitsu'' magazine, he mused that the game could be the start of a brand new trilogy<ref>ファミ通, November 1989</ref>.		As the [[Erdrick trilogy]] had been wrapped up concisely with the twist ending of {{Dragon Quest III}}, [[Yuji Horii]] decided that ''Dragon Quest IV'' would be a fresh start with a story unconnected to what came before During an interview with ''Weekly Famitsu'' magazine, he mused that the game could be the start of a brand new trilogy<ref>ファミ通, November 1989</ref>.

	Development of ''Dragon Quest IV'' began with the decision that the title would explore the emerging world of artificial intelligence behavior. The development team held an initial planning meeting in February of 1988 to explore what programming techniques were available and what would be suitable for the game, with frequent subsequent meetings being held until the team's priorities were finalized in June<ref>・・・・・・今回イロイロと新しいことにチャレンジしてますけど、なかでもいちばん苦労したところはどこですか?		Development of ''Dragon Quest IV'' began with the decision that the title would explore the emerging world of [[artificial intelligence]] behavior. The development team held an initial planning meeting in February of 1988 to explore what programming techniques were available and what would be suitable for the game, with frequent subsequent meetings being held until the team's priorities were finalized in June<ref>・・・・・・今回イロイロと新しいことにチャレンジしてますけど、なかでもいちばん苦労したところはどこですか?
	堀井: やっぱりAIでしょう。できあがるのに1年以上かかってますから。とにかくAIを使うっていうことは、最初からほとんど決まってたんですよね。それまでまず、'88年の2月頃から会議を初めて、延々と会議を繰り返したわけです。		堀井: やっぱりAIでしょう。できあがるのに1年以上かかってますから。とにかくAIを使うっていうことは、最初からほとんど決まってたんですよね。それまでまず、'88年の2月頃から会議を初めて、延々と会議を繰り返したわけです。

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	*[[Liquid metal armour]] now costs 35,000 [[gold]] coins, as opposed to the 15,000 in the {{NES}} version.		*[[Liquid metal armour]] now costs 35,000 [[gold]] coins, as opposed to the 15,000 in the {{NES}} version.
	*The [[Gospel ring]] accessory is now included at the Pioneer town which is upgraded to a castle and is sold for 250,000 coins at the casino.		*The [[Gospel ring]] accessory is now included at the Pioneer town which is upgraded to a castle and is sold for 250,000 coins at the casino.
	*[['The Big Book of ~~Beast~~']] is now included for the monster bestiary and the player will be rewarded 250,000 coins if they complete the list of monsters.		*[['The Big Book of Beasts']] is now included for the monster bestiary and the player will be rewarded 250,000 coins if they complete the list of monsters.

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	===~~'''~~Miscellaneous~~'''~~===		===Miscellaneous===
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	堀井: 反響の中でも特に、不満の部分を生かしますね。なんとかがめんどくさかったとか、それはある程度自分たちでも反省会を開いたりするんですけどね。るそういう意味では今回、コマンド体系をさらに使いやすくしたつもりです。カギを使うのがめんどくさいとか、そういった部分をすべて改善しましたから。''Dragon Quest IV Master's Club'' page 6, ISBN4-7966-0084-1</ref>. The save points were also moved from castles to [[church]]es placed close to town entrances; because the kings and queens of each region no longer saved games, the developers were able to flesh out those characters' personalities<ref>''Dragon Quest IV Master's Club'' page 9, ISBN4-7966-0084-1</ref>.		堀井: 反響の中でも特に、不満の部分を生かしますね。なんとかがめんどくさかったとか、それはある程度自分たちでも反省会を開いたりするんですけどね。るそういう意味では今回、コマンド体系をさらに使いやすくしたつもりです。カギを使うのがめんどくさいとか、そういった部分をすべて改善しましたから。''Dragon Quest IV Master's Club'' page 6, ISBN4-7966-0084-1</ref>. The save points were also moved from castles to [[church]]es placed close to town entrances; because the kings and queens of each region no longer saved games, the developers were able to flesh out those characters' personalities<ref>''Dragon Quest IV Master's Club'' page 9, ISBN4-7966-0084-1</ref>.

	The ~~task of writing the AI code was taken up~~ by series veteran [[Manabu Yamana]], ~~who~~ took approximately a year to ~~implement and fine-tune the intricate system~~. ~~Yamana developed a group-learning AI where battle information obtained by one character is shared among the whole party. This was done at [[Yuji~~ Horii~~]]'s insistence on the grounds that having~~ to switch characters in and out of the wagon ~~just~~ to learn the ~~weaknesses of a particular monster~~ would be ~~very tedious. This approach also had the extra benefit of enriching the immersion experience~~ as it ~~was easy~~ to imagine the ~~characters~~ sharing advice among ~~themselves once a battle was over~~<ref>堀井: あとね、みんなが誤解してるかもしれないんで、これだけは言っておきたいんです。たとえば8人いますよね。で、ブライばかり出して戦闘してて、マーニャは馬車の中にばかりいたと。だからマーニャは、このモンスターと戦うのは初めてだという場合でも、マーニャはいちおう馬車の中から今までの戦いを見ている、という設定のもとに学習しているんです。それはナゼかって言うと、1人ずつ出して学習させるのはダルいと思ったからなんです。だから、パーティとして覚えちゃう。1人の知識はみんなの知識というような、学習機能にしちゃったんですね。結果的にはこれでよかったと思いますよ。やっぱり、それぞれのキャラクターを外に出して、何回も同じモンスターと戦うのってダルいですから。''Dragon Quest IV Master's Club'' page 5, ISBN4-7966-0084-1</ref>. This emphasis on ~~player~~ convenience ~~is the reason why characters riding~~ in the wagon ~~also gain~~ the same experience ~~points obtained by~~ characters ~~fighting on the front-lines~~<ref>逆に、中にいる人は学習できないとなると、必然的に外に出すキャラって固定されますよね。		The party's artificial intelligence system, written by series veteran Manabu Yamana with an emphasis on player convenience, took approximately a year to be fully implemented. Because Horii considered it tedious to switch characters in and out of the wagon to learn monsters' weaknesses, Yamana programmed the AI so that any battle information would be automatically passed to every party member, which pleased Horii, as he considered it immersive to imagine the party members sharing advice among each other<ref>堀井: あとね、みんなが誤解してるかもしれないんで、これだけは言っておきたいんです。たとえば8人いますよね。で、ブライばかり出して戦闘してて、マーニャは馬車の中にばかりいたと。だからマーニャは、このモンスターと戦うのは初めてだという場合でも、マーニャはいちおう馬車の中から今までの戦いを見ている、という設定のもとに学習しているんです。それはナゼかって言うと、1人ずつ出して学習させるのはダルいと思ったからなんです。だから、パーティとして覚えちゃう。1人の知識はみんなの知識というような、学習機能にしちゃったんですね。結果的にはこれでよかったと思いますよ。やっぱり、それぞれのキャラクターを外に出して、何回も同じモンスターと戦うのってダルいですから。''Dragon Quest IV Master's Club'' page 5, ISBN4-7966-0084-1</ref>. This emphasis on convenience also allowed party members in the wagon to obtain the same amounts of experience as the active characters<ref>逆に、中にいる人は学習できないとなると、必然的に外に出すキャラって固定されますよね。
	堀井: そうなんですよね。役に立つキャラばかり使うことになるから、役に立たないキャラはいつまでたっても育たないし、役に立たないままになっちゃうでしょう。それじゃ困りますからね。馬車の中のキャラも経験値がもらえるっていうのも、そのせいなんです。''Dragon Quest IV Master's Club'' page 5, ISBN4-7966-0084-1</ref>.		堀井: そうなんですよね。役に立つキャラばかり使うことになるから、役に立たないキャラはいつまでたっても育たないし、役に立たないままになっちゃうでしょう。それじゃ困りますからね。馬車の中のキャラも経験値がもらえるっていうのも、そのせいなんです。''Dragon Quest IV Master's Club'' page 5, ISBN4-7966-0084-1</ref>. The AI feature in the final chapter was deliberately not implemented for the protagonists in the first four to allow the players to empathize with the characters as they controlled them, and to keep players from being bored by not having any influence during battle<ref>もう1つ目立って新しい要素として、5章構成のストーリーっていうのがあるんですけど、そもそもどうしてシナリオを5つに分けたんですか?
			堀井: これもイロんな要因があるんですよ。まず、メモリーが増えるぶん、ΙIよりも長い話になりそうだと。そうすると、IIIより長い1本の話っていうのは、けっこうヘビーだと思ったわけです。長いぶん、終盤になってダレたりとかしちゃうんじゃないかとね。それだったら、スパンスパンと区切って、1本1本の話しとしてはそれほど長くないけど、全体のボリュームとしては川よるもあるという方法をとろうと思ったんです。それで何章かに分けたいというのが出てきたんですね。また、それと並行してAIを使うということになったんですよね。AIで仲間が勝手に動くと。ただ、初めから勝手に動かれたんじゃ、あまり感情移入ができないんじゃないかと思ったんです。何か変なことをやっても、プレイヤーはろくに見もせずに、ボタンを押していくだけじゃないかとね。やっぱりAIをおもしろいと感じるのは、そのAIのキャラに思い入れができないといけないわけですよね。それじゃあ、章に分けたのと合わせて、最初はAIじゃなくて、それぞれのキャラに対する思い入れをつくる部分にしようって、そう考えたわけです。コイツはこんなヤツだということがわかってこそ、5章になってからAIで動かれても、楽しめると思うんですよね。''Dragon Quest IV Master's Club'' page 5, ISBN4-7966-0084-1</ref>.

	The ~~chapter-based story structure that defines the~~ game's ~~plot came about from the increase in available memory for Famicom cartridges since the release of ''Dragon Quest III''~~, ~~having risen from 2 megabits~~ to ~~4. Though~~ a ~~similar situation happened between the release of {{Dragon Quest II}} and ''Dragon Quest III''~~, ~~that transition was handled smoothly thanks~~ to ~~the smaller scope of the second game compared to the third; Horii was concerned that designing ''Dragon Quest IV'' as~~ a ~~game~~ that was twice as long as ''Dragon Quest III'' ~~would overwhelm players and be too exhausting~~. ~~The chapter structure was~~ also ~~implemented because Horii~~ wanted to examine the lives of the Hero's companions before ~~joining~~ forces, a deliberate contrast to the ~~characters made from scratch by the player in~~ [[Patty's Party Planning Place]] in ''~~Dragon Quest~~ III''<ref>"What was the inspiration for dividing ''Dragon Quest IV'' into five stand-alone chapters?"		The game's storyline, with self-contained chapters leading up to a greater finale, came about because Horii did not want to overwhelm players with a single long campaign that was twice as long as ''Dragon Quest III'''s. He also wanted to examine the lives of the Hero's companions before they joined forces, a deliberate contrast to the blank slates created at [[Patty's Party Planning Place]] in ''III''<ref>"What was the inspiration for dividing ''Dragon Quest IV'' into five stand-alone chapters?"
	Horii: ''In Dragon Quest III'', you went on an adventure with three companions, but these characters were simply created from scratch by the player. I thought it would be interesting to explore the lives of your comrades, which became the inspiration for ''Dragon Quest IV''</ref>. Though much focus was given to the AI during development, it was decided that the feature would not be applied to the Chosen in their respective chapters so that the player would be in control of their actions and empathize with each character directly. This approach also avoided the boredom that would result from the player not having any influence during battle<ref>もう1つ目立って新しい要素として、5章構成のストーリーっていうのがあるんですけど、そもそもどうしてシナリオを5つに分けたんですか?		Horii: In ''Dragon Quest III'', you went on an adventure with three companions, but these characters were simply created from scratch by the player. I thought it would be interesting to explore the lives of your comrades, which became the inspiration for ''Dragon Quest IV''</ref>.
	堀井: これもイロんな要因があるんですよ。まず、メモリーが増えるぶん、ΙIよりも長い話になりそうだと。そうすると、IIIより長い1本の話っていうのは、けっこうヘビーだと思ったわけです。長いぶん、終盤になってダレたりとかしちゃうんじゃないかとね。それだったら、スパンスパンと区切って、1本1本の話しとしてはそれほど長くないけど、全体のボリュームとしては川よるもあるという方法をとろうと思ったんです。それで何章かに分けたいというのが出てきたんですね。また、それと並行してAIを使うということになったんですよね。AIで仲間が勝手に動くと。ただ、初めから勝手に動かれたんじゃ、あまり感情移入ができないんじゃないかと思ったんです。何か変なことをやっても、プレイヤーはろくに見もせずに、ボタンを押していくだけじゃないかとね。やっぱりAIをおもしろいと感じるのは、そのAIのキャラに思い入れができないといけないわけですよね。それじゃあ、章に分けたのと合わせて、最初はAIじゃなくて、それぞれのキャラに対する思い入れをつくる部分にしようって、そう考えたわけです。コイツはこんなヤツだということがわかってこそ、5章になってからAIで動かれても、楽しめると思うんですよね。''Dragon Quest IV Master's Club'' page 5, ISBN4-7966-0084-1</ref>

	~~A secondary purpose of the~~ chapter structure was to ease ~~new~~ players into the ~~style~~ of ''Dragon Quest'' games, as Horii believed that the system had evolved too quickly between the first three titles. As such Ragnar McRyan's chapter is the most simple and plays like the first {{Dragon Quest}}, with Healie added to avoid the monotony of controlling just one character that plagued the first game and ~~to give players an early, unobtrusive exposure to~~ the AI system<ref>確かに1章なんか、イロイロな面で入門用にもピッタリという感じはしますね。		The chapter structure was also intended to ease players into the structure of a ''Dragon Quest'' game and the AI system<ref>確かに1章なんか、イロイロな面で入門用にもピッタリという感じはしますね。
	堀井: ただ、あんまりドラクエすぎてもちょっとつまらないので、ホイミンをつけてみたりとか。(笑)ちょっとだけNPC(ノンプレイヤーキャラ)の練習をさせたりもしてるんですよね。''Dragon Quest IV Master's Club'' page 6, ISBN4-7966-0084-1</ref>. ~~The structure chapter~~ 2 ~~is based on ''Dragon Quest II''~~ with ~~the player controlling~~ three ~~characters at once in a more involved narrative: this chapter~~ proved to be the most difficult to balance, ~~which lead to~~ the continent of [[Terrestria\|Maestral]] ~~being given~~ mountainous terrain to increase ~~the~~ encounter ~~rate~~ and ~~the village of~~ [[Zalenagrad]] ~~having~~ a conspicuous sign post warning players to ~~take their time leveling~~ up before moving ~~on to the north~~<ref>今のところ2章までやらせてもらったんですけど、今回は結構イベントが多そうですね。2章なんていきなりイベントがあったりして...。		堀井: ただ、あんまりドラクエすぎてもちょっとつまらないので、ホイミンをつけてみたりとか。(笑)ちょっとだけNPC(ノンプレイヤーキャラ)の練習をさせたりもしてるんですよね。''Dragon Quest IV Master's Club'' page 6, ISBN4-7966-0084-1</ref>, as Horii believed the systems had evolved too fast between the previous games. Due to this, Chapters 1 and 2 were intentionally structured similarly to {{DQ}} and {{DQ2}}, with its simple combat and three-man party respectively. Chapter 2 proved to be the most difficult to balance, with the continent of [[Terrestria\|Maestral]] receiving mountainous terrain to increase encounter rates and [[Zalenagrad]] getting a conspicuous sign post warning players to level up before moving forward with their journey<ref>今のところ2章までやらせてもらったんですけど、今回は結構イベントが多そうですね。2章なんていきなりイベントがあったりして...。

	堀井: そうですね。2章はバランスどりもけっこう苦労しました。というのは、町の数が多いものですから、隣の町までの距離もあまりなくて、ヘタすると1回もエンカウントせずに行けてしまう可能性があったんですよ。		堀井: そうですね。2章はバランスどりもけっこう苦労しました。というのは、町の数が多いものですから、隣の町までの距離もあまりなくて、ヘタすると1回もエンカウントせずに行けてしまう可能性があったんですよ。
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	堀井: あのサランの町の武器屋にはアリーナが装備できる“いばらのムチ"を売るようにしたり....。地形もモンスターに会いやすいように山を多くしたりと、いろんなことをやりました。で“いばらのムチ”を買うために戦っていると、ちょうど次の村にいっても大丈夫なレベルになっていると・・・・・・。''Dragon Quest IV Master's Club'' page 6, ISBN4-7966-0084-1</ref>.		堀井: あのサランの町の武器屋にはアリーナが装備できる“いばらのムチ"を売るようにしたり....。地形もモンスターに会いやすいように山を多くしたりと、いろんなことをやりました。で“いばらのムチ”を買うために戦っていると、ちょうど次の村にいっても大丈夫なレベルになっていると・・・・・・。''Dragon Quest IV Master's Club'' page 6, ISBN4-7966-0084-1</ref>.

	~~Using a~~ chapter structure ~~with distinct playstyles~~ meant that ~~certain elements like collecting~~ sacred artifacts ~~such as~~ the [[5 Sigils~~\|five sigils~~]] and the [[Six Orbs~~\|six orbs~~]] could ~~not~~ be implemented~~. Because the feature had become emblematic of ''Dragon Quest''~~, ~~an optional substitute was created in~~ the ~~form of~~ mini medals to satisfy players that enjoyed ~~amassing a~~ collection ~~of items in the earlier titles~~<ref>週刊少年ジャンプ issue 45, page 8, 1989</ref>. The slot machines ~~found in casinos were a~~ similar ~~expansion of the [[tombola]] games in~~ ''~~Dragon Quest~~ II''~~, as were the monster cards compared to those found in~~ ''~~Dragon Quest~~ III''~~. These bouts~~ were ~~programmed by~~ Kazuya Asano~~, who created~~ the ~~betting cards from suggestions from other staff members. Cards would only~~ be ~~programmed into the game after Asano~~ tested ~~the victory probability of~~ each monster ~~within~~ to ~~insure that~~ every monster had a chance to ~~emerge the winner,~~ and assigned the odds accordingly<ref>あと、カジノもやらせてもらったんですけど、あれはオトナがハマるんじゃないかと思います。		Because the chapter structure meant that the series staple of gathering sacred artifacts (like the [[5 Sigils]] and the [[Six Orbs]]) could no longer be implemented, the [[mini medals]] were created as a replacement to satisfy players that enjoyed the collection aspect<ref>週刊少年ジャンプ issue 45, page 8, 1989</ref>. The slot machines and monster-betting cards expanded on similar minigames from ''II'' and ''III'' respectively; the betting cards were suggested to programmer Kazuya Asano. Asano wanted the monster arena to be based on more than pure chance, thus he tested each monster's winning probability to ensure every monster had a chance to win a battle and assigned the odds accordingly<ref>あと、カジノもやらせてもらったんですけど、あれはオトナがハマるんじゃないかと思います。
	堀井: けっこう凝ってるでしょ。		堀井: けっこう凝ってるでしょ。